It seems that conspiracy theories are no longer a fringe phenomenon confined to tinfoil hat-wearing preppers and everyone is a conspiracy theorist now. Why do you think conspiratorial explanations of world events have exploded in popularity? Which conspiracy theories do YOU believe in, or wish others believed in?
No.7571
Anonymous
2025-09-26 09:33:46
Conspiracy theories
No.7572
Anonymous
2025-09-26 10:52:46
Conspiracy theories are themselves a conspiracy theory to distract the masses from collective action.
I believe that blue light has a negative and dulling effect on the brain, and addictive social media, in addition to its own retardifying effects, is designed to maximise exposure to the harmful effect of blue light
>>7573
This is untrue, the blue-light theory based on a conflation of two things, harm caused by early liquid crystal diodes (which released enormous amounts of light in the UV spectrum which could damage your eyes, though at this stage they were far too big to be used in screens) and the fact using screens at night keeps you awake, and perhaps also, that holding your phone close to your face may cause vision issues.
The amount of blue light you get outside is much, much higher than any you get from a screen, it is just not true that blue light as such causes health issues.
Also, blue light blocking glasses don't actually block blue light very well.
I believe in the conspiracy theory about Pearl Harbour and advance knowledge, and broadly, I expect that many attacks are allowed to go ahead in order to generate a casus belli. There is some evidence, though not conclusive, that this happened on Oct 7 in Israel.
This is untrue, the blue-light theory based on a conflation of two things, harm caused by early liquid crystal diodes (which released enormous amounts of light in the UV spectrum which could damage your eyes, though at this stage they were far too big to be used in screens) and the fact using screens at night keeps you awake, and perhaps also, that holding your phone close to your face may cause vision issues.
The amount of blue light you get outside is much, much higher than any you get from a screen, it is just not true that blue light as such causes health issues.
Also, blue light blocking glasses don't actually block blue light very well.
I believe in the conspiracy theory about Pearl Harbour and advance knowledge, and broadly, I expect that many attacks are allowed to go ahead in order to generate a casus belli. There is some evidence, though not conclusive, that this happened on Oct 7 in Israel.
No.7578
Anonymous
2025-09-26 14:54:53
1.
My favorite conspiracy theory is the very narrow inference that the Newport Tower was built by a covert pre-Jamestown mission sent by the English to colonize North America. Such a colonization attempt was attempted covertly in order to circumvent Catholic domination in the New World.
The facts: Spanish interdiction of English expeditions into the Atlantic was frequent and greatly feared by the English in the 1570s, such as in the 1579 event when Humphrey Gilbert's expeditionary fleet had to dodge the Spanish at Land's End in Cornwall. One of the ships in that event was the English ship "Squirrel." Earlier in the 1570s the "Squirrel" visited Narragansett Bay, where Newport is. John Dee identifies the location of the Newport Tower on his own maps and the site in Narragansett Bay was known as "Dee's Island." The pilot of the "Squirrel's" trip to Narragansett was Simon Fernandes, an experienced transatlantic pilot working for England who would later go on to pilot the ships to England's "Lost Colony". The Newport Tower matches the architecture of stone mills that were built at the time in 16th century England, and such mills have been documented in Cambridgeshire. (John Dee had attended Cambridge University.) The construction of a mill indicates that the mill-builders (the English, in this inference) had vastly overconfident expectations about their own abilities to farm the area. If such a colony existed, it failed for any number of possible reasons.
My favorite conspiracy theory is the very narrow inference that the Newport Tower was built by a covert pre-Jamestown mission sent by the English to colonize North America. Such a colonization attempt was attempted covertly in order to circumvent Catholic domination in the New World.
The facts: Spanish interdiction of English expeditions into the Atlantic was frequent and greatly feared by the English in the 1570s, such as in the 1579 event when Humphrey Gilbert's expeditionary fleet had to dodge the Spanish at Land's End in Cornwall. One of the ships in that event was the English ship "Squirrel." Earlier in the 1570s the "Squirrel" visited Narragansett Bay, where Newport is. John Dee identifies the location of the Newport Tower on his own maps and the site in Narragansett Bay was known as "Dee's Island." The pilot of the "Squirrel's" trip to Narragansett was Simon Fernandes, an experienced transatlantic pilot working for England who would later go on to pilot the ships to England's "Lost Colony". The Newport Tower matches the architecture of stone mills that were built at the time in 16th century England, and such mills have been documented in Cambridgeshire. (John Dee had attended Cambridge University.) The construction of a mill indicates that the mill-builders (the English, in this inference) had vastly overconfident expectations about their own abilities to farm the area. If such a colony existed, it failed for any number of possible reasons.
No.7579
Anonymous
2025-09-26 15:37:33
>>7575
Blue light does disrupt your circadian rhythm thougheverbeit
Blue light does disrupt your circadian rhythm thougheverbeit
2.
This one is more general and extravagant.
Elements of the US security state achieved an independent political consciousness in the early Cold War. Call it the "nuclear deep state." They charged themselves with the responsibility of guaranteeing humanity's future existence. Most of their day-to-day work is in facilitating various technical aspects of nuclear deterrence. They develop design parameters for new kinds of missiles and aircraft for various kinds of conflict: AH-64s, A-10s, tank-busters and tactical nukes for Soviet armored divisions in the Fulda Gap; variable yield or strategic nukes for popping Pyonyang, etc. They develop strategy papers on various forms of nuclear conflict theory: limited nuclear options, strike-on-warning, counterforce vs countervalue, etc. They adopted game theory as their overarching ideology. They tend to focus on the presidency because the US security structure puts the decision to use nuclear weapons solely in the hands of the President, without any checks or balances. This has been called a "thermonuclear monarchy."
The nuclear deep state has overlapped substantially with small cliques who have directly replaced US presidents. The nuclear deep state seems to have responded to the Cuban Missile Crisis as an existential threat that justified regime change against JFK. Allen Dulles, due to his personal adversity with JFK, became the focal point for a broad-based effort to replace JFK. The specific alignment of shooters and getaway locations is incidental. The second shooter was probably an OAS gun-for-hire recruited through the "French Connection". Lee Harvey Oswald was a used-up counterintelligence asset designated as disposable by James Jesus Angleton.
This breakaway polity also used Alexander Haig as a pass-through to weaken Richard Nixon. Nixow was probably mis-understood by the nuclear deep state as a genuine China hawk. Nixon took a characterisically two-faced stance towards the China Lobby. Nixon relied on Anna Chenault and Henry Kissinger to help undermine LBJ's chances at success in negotiations. The nuclear deep state probably misunderstood Nixon's alignment as trending towards intervention in favor of the Republic of China that would spiral toward a full nuclear war between East and West. As we now know, Nixon's actual alignment was towards detente and his visit to China has turned out to be one of the most consequential events of the 20th century. But the development of the game-theoretical strategy known as "madman theory" caused an accidental affinity between the nuclear deep state and Nixon. The nuclear deep state offered up this bit of game theory based on its estimation of Nixon as an unscrupulous and opportunistic leader who could cause a nuclear war out of sheer chaos, and Nixon selected this strategy out of an appreciation for how the cover of chaos allowed him to secretly retain the initiative. The nuclear deep state's first attempt to weaken Nixon is now known as the "Radford-Moorer affair" and probably involved Alexander Haig intercepting secure packets moving between the Pentagon and National Security Advisor Kissinger. After Nixon successfully suppressed the political consequences of that, the nuclear deep state probably decided to use Nixon's inclinations against him and to discredit him via the Watergate break-ins. The break-ins themselves were astonishingly foolish and conducted by Bay-of-Pigs hangers-on. The break-ins were directed by John Dean and the information was leaked by Deep Throat, who was in fact Alexander Haig. As expected, Nixon bungled an attempt to suppress investigation, and was caught up by his own suspicious and secretive habits. But with his survivor's instincts sensing the autocoup's nature almost exactly, Nixon responded to the Watergate by quipping “I can go in my office and pick up the telephone, and in 25 minutes, millions of people will be dead."
Since Watergate, the nuclear deep state lost its verve for eliminating presidents. The Iran Contra affair was a tossed-off bit of blowback stemming from the parapolitical currents of guns, oil, and drugs that were maintained as a standing surplus for use by the nuclear deep state. Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban tapped into some of those currents. Saddam Hussein and Muammar Ghaddafi were other used-up assets to be culled, like Lee Harvey Oswald. But the nuclear deep state was also conflicted about the Bush White House. The neocons in the Bush White House knew the play that they wanted to run in the Middle East and were willing to distort and frustrate business-as-usual for the nuclear deep state in order to achieve these ends. But there was wildcat resistance by career bureaucrats inside the nuclear deep state who resented the interference in their day-to-day work, which they consider to be of existential importance to humanity. So there were occasional leaks from inside the nuclear deep state and attempts to counter-program the consent that had been manufactured against Saddam.
The nuclear deep state still exists, however. It is still manufacturing consent. Look at this week's Atlantic and think about it as laying the groundwork for Katherine Bigelow's forthcoming thriller -- House of Dynamite.
This one is more general and extravagant.
Elements of the US security state achieved an independent political consciousness in the early Cold War. Call it the "nuclear deep state." They charged themselves with the responsibility of guaranteeing humanity's future existence. Most of their day-to-day work is in facilitating various technical aspects of nuclear deterrence. They develop design parameters for new kinds of missiles and aircraft for various kinds of conflict: AH-64s, A-10s, tank-busters and tactical nukes for Soviet armored divisions in the Fulda Gap; variable yield or strategic nukes for popping Pyonyang, etc. They develop strategy papers on various forms of nuclear conflict theory: limited nuclear options, strike-on-warning, counterforce vs countervalue, etc. They adopted game theory as their overarching ideology. They tend to focus on the presidency because the US security structure puts the decision to use nuclear weapons solely in the hands of the President, without any checks or balances. This has been called a "thermonuclear monarchy."
The nuclear deep state has overlapped substantially with small cliques who have directly replaced US presidents. The nuclear deep state seems to have responded to the Cuban Missile Crisis as an existential threat that justified regime change against JFK. Allen Dulles, due to his personal adversity with JFK, became the focal point for a broad-based effort to replace JFK. The specific alignment of shooters and getaway locations is incidental. The second shooter was probably an OAS gun-for-hire recruited through the "French Connection". Lee Harvey Oswald was a used-up counterintelligence asset designated as disposable by James Jesus Angleton.
This breakaway polity also used Alexander Haig as a pass-through to weaken Richard Nixon. Nixow was probably mis-understood by the nuclear deep state as a genuine China hawk. Nixon took a characterisically two-faced stance towards the China Lobby. Nixon relied on Anna Chenault and Henry Kissinger to help undermine LBJ's chances at success in negotiations. The nuclear deep state probably misunderstood Nixon's alignment as trending towards intervention in favor of the Republic of China that would spiral toward a full nuclear war between East and West. As we now know, Nixon's actual alignment was towards detente and his visit to China has turned out to be one of the most consequential events of the 20th century. But the development of the game-theoretical strategy known as "madman theory" caused an accidental affinity between the nuclear deep state and Nixon. The nuclear deep state offered up this bit of game theory based on its estimation of Nixon as an unscrupulous and opportunistic leader who could cause a nuclear war out of sheer chaos, and Nixon selected this strategy out of an appreciation for how the cover of chaos allowed him to secretly retain the initiative. The nuclear deep state's first attempt to weaken Nixon is now known as the "Radford-Moorer affair" and probably involved Alexander Haig intercepting secure packets moving between the Pentagon and National Security Advisor Kissinger. After Nixon successfully suppressed the political consequences of that, the nuclear deep state probably decided to use Nixon's inclinations against him and to discredit him via the Watergate break-ins. The break-ins themselves were astonishingly foolish and conducted by Bay-of-Pigs hangers-on. The break-ins were directed by John Dean and the information was leaked by Deep Throat, who was in fact Alexander Haig. As expected, Nixon bungled an attempt to suppress investigation, and was caught up by his own suspicious and secretive habits. But with his survivor's instincts sensing the autocoup's nature almost exactly, Nixon responded to the Watergate by quipping “I can go in my office and pick up the telephone, and in 25 minutes, millions of people will be dead."
Since Watergate, the nuclear deep state lost its verve for eliminating presidents. The Iran Contra affair was a tossed-off bit of blowback stemming from the parapolitical currents of guns, oil, and drugs that were maintained as a standing surplus for use by the nuclear deep state. Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban tapped into some of those currents. Saddam Hussein and Muammar Ghaddafi were other used-up assets to be culled, like Lee Harvey Oswald. But the nuclear deep state was also conflicted about the Bush White House. The neocons in the Bush White House knew the play that they wanted to run in the Middle East and were willing to distort and frustrate business-as-usual for the nuclear deep state in order to achieve these ends. But there was wildcat resistance by career bureaucrats inside the nuclear deep state who resented the interference in their day-to-day work, which they consider to be of existential importance to humanity. So there were occasional leaks from inside the nuclear deep state and attempts to counter-program the consent that had been manufactured against Saddam.
The nuclear deep state still exists, however. It is still manufacturing consent. Look at this week's Atlantic and think about it as laying the groundwork for Katherine Bigelow's forthcoming thriller -- House of Dynamite.
3.
The most abstract and wide-reaching.
"Hyperstition" is abundant. I will modestly define "hyperstition" as the capacity for descriptive conjectures to be re-appropriated as normative ideals that can coordinate the efforts of people distributed across space and time.
When the neo-Ciceronian humanist rhetors joined forces with the Okhamite nominalists to overthrow the dominant Scotists who controlled the universities, they had no clue what they were unleashing. The subsequent generations of nominalist philosophy (which CS Peirce called a "demonic doctrine") provided the epistemic basis for dehumanizing epistemologies. The breakthrough success for the Ockhamites occurred in England following Francis Bacon and the anglo tradition of reductivism led to Hobbes, Locke, and all the great intellectuals of the East India Company. Hobbes, of course, was Bacon's amanuensis, and he internalized a deep suspicion of all of Bacon's idols. But what Hobbes could not foresee was that his description of a successful Stuart monarchy (in *Leviathan*) would itself become an idol to succeeding generations.
There is a parallel to Descartes vivisecting dogs just to show his students that the soul was not an organ: the great British Empiricists first described the world as nothing more than a balance of effective causalities, and as if to prove that to be the British Empire effected a total planetary dehumanization. British utilitarianism articulated a binary vocabulary for the whole planet comprised exclusively of pulses of pain and gratification. People became slaves, or vetti-chakiri, or bondsmen, or indentured servants -- and once they were not people any more, they became horseflesh to be whipped and then relieved. The human becomes a pile of corpuscles that release energy in one direction or another, and that release can be controlled through the intelligent application of terror.
The same happens with other descriptive frames in modernity. Fichte's consolations to a defeated and stateless German nation provide the script for German nationalists to launch apocalypse wars against Europe. Cyberneticism starts off as a description of organic learning, and then becomes a norm that legitimates dehumanization. We grasp at AI not because it is truly intelligent, but because our thinkers offer us such an impoverished idea of intelligence that we are forced to accept autocomplete as meeting their humiliating expectations.
The most abstract and wide-reaching.
"Hyperstition" is abundant. I will modestly define "hyperstition" as the capacity for descriptive conjectures to be re-appropriated as normative ideals that can coordinate the efforts of people distributed across space and time.
When the neo-Ciceronian humanist rhetors joined forces with the Okhamite nominalists to overthrow the dominant Scotists who controlled the universities, they had no clue what they were unleashing. The subsequent generations of nominalist philosophy (which CS Peirce called a "demonic doctrine") provided the epistemic basis for dehumanizing epistemologies. The breakthrough success for the Ockhamites occurred in England following Francis Bacon and the anglo tradition of reductivism led to Hobbes, Locke, and all the great intellectuals of the East India Company. Hobbes, of course, was Bacon's amanuensis, and he internalized a deep suspicion of all of Bacon's idols. But what Hobbes could not foresee was that his description of a successful Stuart monarchy (in *Leviathan*) would itself become an idol to succeeding generations.
There is a parallel to Descartes vivisecting dogs just to show his students that the soul was not an organ: the great British Empiricists first described the world as nothing more than a balance of effective causalities, and as if to prove that to be the British Empire effected a total planetary dehumanization. British utilitarianism articulated a binary vocabulary for the whole planet comprised exclusively of pulses of pain and gratification. People became slaves, or vetti-chakiri, or bondsmen, or indentured servants -- and once they were not people any more, they became horseflesh to be whipped and then relieved. The human becomes a pile of corpuscles that release energy in one direction or another, and that release can be controlled through the intelligent application of terror.
The same happens with other descriptive frames in modernity. Fichte's consolations to a defeated and stateless German nation provide the script for German nationalists to launch apocalypse wars against Europe. Cyberneticism starts off as a description of organic learning, and then becomes a norm that legitimates dehumanization. We grasp at AI not because it is truly intelligent, but because our thinkers offer us such an impoverished idea of intelligence that we are forced to accept autocomplete as meeting their humiliating expectations.
>It seems that conspiracy theories are no longer a fringe phenomenon confined to tinfoil hat-wearing preppers and everyone is a conspiracy theorist now. Why do you think conspiratorial explanations of world events have exploded in popularity?
This is the western midwit's favorite take. Always falls flat on my ears as I try to contemplate how all of the history of human thought can be reduced to one trend in one direction. I challenge OP to actually substantiate this claim instead of just throwing it out there for the losers on this board to write his college homework for him.
This is the western midwit's favorite take. Always falls flat on my ears as I try to contemplate how all of the history of human thought can be reduced to one trend in one direction. I challenge OP to actually substantiate this claim instead of just throwing it out there for the losers on this board to write his college homework for him.
Online convert Catholicism, whether it’s the ‘based epic tradcath’ variety or the ‘mommy Mary loves me’ variety, is a trend astroturfed by the Vatican in an attempt to repair their reputation after Catholicism became virtually synonymous with mass abuse of children and adults.
The smaller ‘Orthobro’ phenomenon is a KGB operation to get maladjusted young men to side with Russia.
The smaller ‘Orthobro’ phenomenon is a KGB operation to get maladjusted young men to side with Russia.
>>7582
This is a silly thread on an internet forum. No one cares.
This is a silly thread on an internet forum. No one cares.
No.7586
Anonymous
2025-09-27 03:51:12
>>7585
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I called you a retardfaggot but my cat stepped on my keyboard sorry
>>7587
Uh oh, you’re a really tough guy who thinks threads on imageboards are serious business!
Uh oh, you’re a really tough guy who thinks threads on imageboards are serious business!
>>7588
And you're stuck in 2012 with your above-it-all schtick. So it goes
And you're stuck in 2012 with your above-it-all schtick. So it goes
>>7584
Is that why the vatican created a loli mascot? To attract zoomers?
Is that why the vatican created a loli mascot? To attract zoomers?
No.7592
Anonymous
2025-09-28 05:36:45
>>7589
Don’t punch the wall too hard.
Don’t punch the wall too hard.
No.7593
Anonymous
2025-09-28 07:01:33
>>7591
Apostasy:conversion rates reach 8 to 1 in the USA, Brazil is bleeding the faithful to Pentecostalism, and Poland is losing Catholics faster than any other country. They have to try to appeal to them in some way.
Apostasy:conversion rates reach 8 to 1 in the USA, Brazil is bleeding the faithful to Pentecostalism, and Poland is losing Catholics faster than any other country. They have to try to appeal to them in some way.
No.7633
Anonymous
2025-10-02 17:14:26
https://tannerfboyle.substack.com/p/remote-viewing-as-intelligence-laundering
This one is good. Remote viewing -- CIA Gateway Tapes, "Men who Stare at Goats" stuff -- was counter-intelligence kayfabe meant to launder intel derived from vulnerable intelligence assets and cloud Ivan's abilities to track our "sources and methods" (IE the stuff that the intel community protects most dearly).
This one is good. Remote viewing -- CIA Gateway Tapes, "Men who Stare at Goats" stuff -- was counter-intelligence kayfabe meant to launder intel derived from vulnerable intelligence assets and cloud Ivan's abilities to track our "sources and methods" (IE the stuff that the intel community protects most dearly).
No.7635
Anonymous
2025-10-03 11:37:06
I am of the opinion we need to reject conspiracy thinking, because the erosion of trust that has resulted from the masses embracing conspiracy theories is a danger to America. The anti vax thing is the perfect example.
Why is everyone on Substack now?
>>7648
It's still bloated with unneeded JavaScript. Each page download is about 700 kB, that's with compression. See https://danluu.com/slow-device/.
It's still bloated with unneeded JavaScript. Each page download is about 700 kB, that's with compression. See https://danluu.com/slow-device/.
>>7580
this is cool but why would this nuclear deep state keep the power to launch in the hands of the president? Wouldn't their first objective be to seize this power for themselves by doing something as simple(for an organization with the power to replace US presidents) as swapping out the nuclear football with an identical suitcase that does nothing?
this is cool but why would this nuclear deep state keep the power to launch in the hands of the president? Wouldn't their first objective be to seize this power for themselves by doing something as simple(for an organization with the power to replace US presidents) as swapping out the nuclear football with an identical suitcase that does nothing?
>>7581
this one is really well thought out. u got any book recs
this one is really well thought out. u got any book recs
>>7700
Who controls the National Military Command Center? The NMCC is the things that authenticates The nuke orders. It's an obvious decapitation point for the nuclear deep state.
Oliver North coordinated Iran Contra using some of the messaging systems involved with the highest levels of nuclear security: PROFS, NSA encryption devices, and the System IV channel. E point being that there's circumstantial evidence to believe that the nuclear deep state has free and unconstrained access to signal systems comparable to the channels that will carry NMCC protocol.
Who controls the National Military Command Center? The NMCC is the things that authenticates The nuke orders. It's an obvious decapitation point for the nuclear deep state.
Oliver North coordinated Iran Contra using some of the messaging systems involved with the highest levels of nuclear security: PROFS, NSA encryption devices, and the System IV channel. E point being that there's circumstantial evidence to believe that the nuclear deep state has free and unconstrained access to signal systems comparable to the channels that will carry NMCC protocol.
>>7705
Honestly it would be a really long reading list. I'll try to distill it down.
Honestly it would be a really long reading list. I'll try to distill it down.
No.7734
Anonymous
2025-10-10 23:09:13
No.7740
Anonymous
2025-10-11 08:30:02
>>7581
That's just reductive?
>>7705
>>7733
I think the simplest starting point actually would be Rorty's Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity. He gets his digs in on the anglo-french foundationalist tradition and if you want to chase any of the leads in there it's got a large critical discussion that can lead you in different directions.
That's just reductive?
>>7705
>>7733
I think the simplest starting point actually would be Rorty's Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity. He gets his digs in on the anglo-french foundationalist tradition and if you want to chase any of the leads in there it's got a large critical discussion that can lead you in different directions.
No.7744
Anonymous
2025-10-11 15:53:41
No.7748
Anonymous
2025-10-12 05:30:57
>>7747
It's somehow simpler than Wordpress, if you don't want to bother with the tech, and does the job of blog and mailing-list with tiered paywalls, so good for any kind of patreon-type business. (you have to add a mailjet account, though).
Check-out the themes to get an idea https://ghost.org/themes/?category=free
Pikapod https://www.pikapods.com/ is dirt cheap and offers some credits, so you can start for free and try it out (this is how I got into it). You can also use the official website (free, then paid plans) https://ghost.org/pricing/, but I find it a bit expensive.
In short, it's good if you suscribe to the idea that you should own what you publish. Otherwise, there is probably something better somewhere else, I haven't checked.
It's somehow simpler than Wordpress, if you don't want to bother with the tech, and does the job of blog and mailing-list with tiered paywalls, so good for any kind of patreon-type business. (you have to add a mailjet account, though).
Check-out the themes to get an idea https://ghost.org/themes/?category=free
Pikapod https://www.pikapods.com/ is dirt cheap and offers some credits, so you can start for free and try it out (this is how I got into it). You can also use the official website (free, then paid plans) https://ghost.org/pricing/, but I find it a bit expensive.
In short, it's good if you suscribe to the idea that you should own what you publish. Otherwise, there is probably something better somewhere else, I haven't checked.
No.7750
Anonymous
2025-10-12 17:43:01
>>7749
I thought github was just for code and shit
I thought github was just for code and shit