Petrarchive – Thread 7515

back
No.7515 Anonymous
Post image
Remember, no original research
No.7624 Anonymous
this u?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Succubus_MacAstaroth
No.7625 Anonymous>>7626 >>7653
>I'm a 25-year-old redhead with fake hooters. I'm stupid-smart. My thought only functions in theory, and every theory I think has been thunk before.

>Bertrand Russell rambles a lot. Zen Buddhism is the best delusion ever and I wish the whole world would jump on that bandwagon. I'm not that into the people I meet, but I like the concept of people.

>I am neither theist, nor atheist, nor agnostic. I'm a shamelessly opportunistic syncretic pseudotheist. I read tarot, pray the rosary, speak to fairies and believe the "afterlife" is six feet underground in the gut of a worm (but later in the leaves of a tree, and that ain't bad.) I write bombastic, convoluted poetry because it makes me happy. Alls I want to do is sing, dance, read, and learn to play the flute and the lyre. I wish I could be a geisha. I collect geisha paraphernalia. I also collect pretty fans (the kind you wave in front of your face to cool yourself, not the kind who chase you begging for an autograph, although I wouldn't be opposed to those) and pretty rosaries. Perfumes, ballerina figurines, and ruby, emerald or moonstone jewelry are good too. As soon as I get a chunk of extra cash I'm gonna buy myself a stack of dresses and skirts and I'll never wear another pair of pants again. Real women wear skirts, you see.

>I try my damnedest to be tactful, but it rarely comes out that way. You see, I hate lies and half-truths being passed off as truths. There's some crazy anti-deception bug in my noggin that forces me to click on "edit that page" and change all instances of the word "voluptuous" to "fat".

>I'm iridescently shallow-deep.

>I crave to "worship" deities of love, beauty, music, art, knowledge, wisdom and joy. Right now I favor Sarasvati, Hathor and Benzaiten. They, on the other hand, have been avoiding me for a couple of months. Anyone wanna start a truth & beauty cult?

>Donate objects and money to me! I like things, but I'm too poor to buy them.
No.7626 Anonymous
>>7625
would tbh
No.7653 Anonymous>>7682
>>7625
"Whenever I hear about a let’s say female-presenting person with a really intense, obscure, hyper-systematizing interest, I just count the mouse-clicks it takes me to verify what’s actually going on there. It’s usually like 2-3."

~rubcurious4503
No.7678 Anonymous
I like the one of that Redscare-adjacent girl that says born circa 1988-1989, and how someone on the sub described it as "like a late Antiquity scholar". Still remember that quip and chuckle at it to this day
No.7681 Anonymous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Lorenz
>Born: 1984 or 1985 (age 40–41)
No.7682 Anonymous>>7683 >>7684 >>7685 >>7690 >>7694
>>7653
This is true, BTW, I just did an informal study out of interest and I found out that a lot of the top female scholars in maths and physics... well... to what extent is ordinary common-sense folk knowledge, understood by men and women since time immemorial, obscured by this fact?
No.7683 Anonymous>>7690
Post image
>>7682
Remember that small differences in the mean can cause massive differences in the tails of the distribution.
No.7684 Anonymous>>7690
>>7682
Back in 2008, before the current panic, I happened to learn about Dierdre McCloskey and Wendy Carlos within a couple weeks. Just by happenstance. I feel like this early experience inoculated me before I got bamboozled by a psyop.
No.7685 Anonymous>>7686 >>7688 >>7690
>>7682
this is like 5x as true in programming circles. not wanting to even be mean, but if you ever come across a female name associated with very difficult and technical software work, such as compiler internals, kernel programming, or disassembly and reverse engineering, it is literally an 85-90% chance.
No.7686 Anonymous>>7687 >>7690
>>7685
i wonder whether it's trans -> male-socialized -> [this phenomenon] or trans -> autistic -> [this phenomenon]
No.7687 Anonymous
>>7686
probably both i guess
No.7688 Anonymous>>7690 >>7692
>>7685
In the English-speaking sphere, it's probably 97%+. In China and Russia, due both to the lack of trannies as well as women being more willing to work in hard tech, the situation is much different.

Regardless, I'd like you to take a minute to think how frustrating and demoralizing it is being part of that 3%. Promise not to blogpost.
No.7690 Anonymous>>7691 >>7694
>>7684
There are many, many other examples of people like this, who hide it.

>>7685
I'm the one from >>7682 and I put it somewhere around the 98% mark too.
This might be of interest, brilliant technical work, programmer turns out to be male-born: https://lwn.net/Articles/270081/

>>7686
It's autistic-like traits and asociality which lead to interest in computers and also a lack of identification with their birth sex. High native IQ matters too, because people with a high IQ are more likely to be interested in unconventional things, like getting a sex change.
This subtype of transwomen don't seem particularly feminine in their youth, but do seem non-masculine. Whereas the effeminate subtype of trans would be accepted by the girls and largely rejected by the boys, the non-masculine subtype is more or less rejected by both. Social isolation is very common. One has to be sympathetic

>>7688
Go ahead and blogpost, if you want.
Also, I note your implicit suggestion that the reason women broadly haven't been successful in the mathematics and physics-related fields is because Western women lack the will to work in these fields, rather than their being unlikely to have the capability (see >>7683)
No.7691 Anonymous>>7692 >>7694
Post image
>>7690
>I note your implicit suggestion that the reason women broadly haven't been successful in the mathematics and physics-related fields is because Western women lack the will to work in these fields, rather than their being unlikely to have the capability
Does your worldview forget about Eastern Europe?
No.7692 Anonymous>>7696
>>7691
Eastern Europe is not part of the west. I am >>7688, so this is the original context of my comment -- a division between western and not
No.7693 Anonymous
I did actually specify Anglophone tech circles as there is a real division between Anglophone and Russian & Chinese programming/development/hacking spheres, for the purpose of this specific discussion; and that, broadly, nearly everyone in the chart you posted would be involved in the former either in work or hobby, unless they are particularly invested or connected to the Eastern countries.
No.7694 Anonymous
>>7691
I am >>7682 and >>7690 and I specified 'top female scholars in maths and physics', and >>7865 mentioned 'very difficult and technical software work'. Your chart looks at the proportion of 'women scientists and engineers in the EU'; first, we are talking about high-performers, not ordinary people, and second, 'scientist' may encompass sciences quite far from the hardest of hard sciences, being maths and physics.

Moreover, Eastern European countries produce little in the way of technical innovation, and all their best scientists and particularly mathematicians come to the West. People of ~120 IQ are certainly different from ~140+ IQ, which McCloskey (mentioned above) and Massalin (https://lwn.net/Articles/270081/) certainly are (I could name many other names)
No.7695 Anonymous>>7698 >>7720 >>7727
>Moreover, Eastern European countries produce little in the way of technical innovation

SaaS and Adsense isn't "technical innovation"
No.7696 Anonymous
>>7692
>Eastern Europe is not part of the west.
Oh we actually don't use the same definitions at all then, to me EU is part of the West.
No.7697 Anonymous>>7698
It's a very meaningless and silly distinction and one not worth arguing about, and I regret stating it that plainly. In another context you would be correct of course. I am trying to prevent this thread being derailed by this particular argument since it is pointless and useless arguing over definition.

When I made the remark that I did, I did have in mind the noticeable difference in temperament between western and non-western women, "west" being strictly first world, west of the CIS bloc, countries. This overlaps pretty neatly with which areas have a proliferation of trans culture, thus tying back into the original remark about how every time you click on a visibly female profile or name, it's usually, well. Thus, I guess for the purposes of this discussion, and quite conveniently, the definition of a "western country" could be "where a female name on a github account is more likely to be tranny than a real woman"
No.7698 Anonymous
Post image
>>7695
It is often innovative, even if the social value is minimal. But what Adsense and SaaS-crap have funded are things like quantum computing, Linux development, CERN, I could go on... it is happening mainly in the West.
Anyway, I said that transgender women are massively overrepresented at the top of certain fields broadly connected to mathematics, being much more successful than biological women; it isn't really important what the great masses of scientists who just clock-in-and-clock-out are doing, but rather what is going on at the top, where it is, if not a male domain, an XY chromosome-only domain...
>>7697
I looked quickly at computer programmers things I'd consider interesting (highly technical and/or clever stuff) in Poland, Czechia and Germany and I'd say almost all of them are male-born. But it was only a brief, 5 minute look.
No.7699 Anonymous
Also notable that the confederation of Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, the 'Stans, Russia and Moldova is known in English as Commonwealth of Independent States, or CIS.
No.7701 Anonymous>>7719
Post image
>Eastern Europe doesn't produce successful women in the mathematics and physics-related fields.
>Eastern European countries produce little in the way of technical innovation, and all their best scientists and particularly mathematicians come to the West.

>Your chart looks at the proportion of 'women scientists and engineers in the EU'; first, we are talking about high-performers, not ordinary people

>for the purposes of this discussion, and quite conveniently, the definition of a "western country" could be "where a female name on a github account is more likely to be tranny than a real woman"
>I am trying to prevent this thread being derailed by this particular argument since it is pointless and useless arguing over definition.
No.7712 Anonymous
The focus has consistently been on people at the top of maths-related fields. Accounting, say, is maths-related but you don't need to be in the top 0.01% to do it
Don't know why this is so hard to understand
No.7713 Anonymous
Just looked at female engineers at Cloudflare, quick inspection revealed... I need not say any more
No.7714 Anonymous
Post image
No.7719 Anonymous>>7735
>>7701

I'm not the guy you're responding to but

>I am trying to prevent this thread being derailed...

OP's post was about editing wikipedia or something
No.7720 Anonymous>>7726
>>7695
>SaaS and Adsense isn't "technical innovation"

Let's see Europe's innovation, then. Despite all the spending on a 'regulatory superpower' the entire continent has basically zero tech industry.
No.7726 Anonymous
Post image
>>7720
No.7727 Anonymous
>>7695
SaaS is mostly people inventing useful software and then selling it. People lump it under consulting etc when it's typically technically intensive and productive
No.7729 Anonymous>>7731
Post image
not relevant but funny
No.7731 Anonymous
>>7729
That one lives in my head. I love classical philosophy and I don't know what that says about me.
No.7735 Anonymous
>>7719
Or something.