Petrarchive – Understanding soyjak culture

As in attempt to methodically dissect and analyze the whole thing and put results into words? no, because I never needed to. You generally get to understand it instinctively had you followed certain pipeline and submerged yourself in the context. But there was always element of innate resistance to such dissection: nothing brings more joy to this "subculture" than seeing Serious People ™ flail around and completely fail (or occasionally drive themselves to the edge of madness) deciphering the arcane and dynamic hierogliphic language of memes authors of which themselves could not tell you on which layer of irony they are. Furthermore, a lot of it is simply not meant to be understood by anyone, period. Just like literally huffing glue or drinking paint solvent a part of it is just entertaining mind poison. the fun part is that it is not easily identifiable by outsiders.
I'm quite through with this stuff myself tho.

1. Soyjaks are dolls. People play with soyjaks as a way of playing with dolls.

2. Once again, Kantbot has it solved for you. He's got that scene in TFW no gf where he explains Pepe and wojak as the duality of man -- Pepe is mirthful, devious, expressive; wojak is anhedonic, oppressed, repressive.

I'm a /qa/ oldfag. The people who post soyjaks gets replaced every 3~6 months with a new batch of underage children.
What was once a responds to 4chan oldfags slowly lost its meaning as rw xitter children and tiktok toddlers emulated the emulation of posting style into something meaningless.

>>7271
>replaced every 3~6 months with a new batch of underage children
Not that I know much about the type of people who post soyjaks but I don't think this is the case. My impression is that they're mostly the same people stuck in a cycle of dissociation through extreme irony & shitposting. The huffing paint analogy made in >>7262 makes most sense to me.

they are not children, but teenagers

What is the 'culture'?

The image itself is unoriginal; a feels guy image edit, itself being a ripoff from Bernd of krautchan. Funny, that. It had a name all along.
All behavior behind it is an infantile mixture of greentexting what someone said, with or without post quoting, and revising history as if what you personally believe about the person who you are forcing to view the image mirrors to become actual reality, or that someone who views the image will be subjected to physical pain in meatspace. Complete laughable psychosis.
All parasitical.

>>7277
leaky peaky 4cuck GEEEG

>>7272
Read the kiwi thread, the first 800~ pages can give you insight into soy history and how oldCHADS view the sharty.
But I'll give a condensed breakdown on the history of the sharty.
The first owner started the site as a hobby, and it gained majority of it's traction after /qa/ shutdown. After a while a bunch of people started spamming soyjak cp shock videos ( https://archive.ph/6XYxf). Due to all of the cp spam the first owner sells it to the second one, I'll call him Kuz, Kuz was shady and nothing is truly known about him. He owned a bunch of alt chans and loved his little boys, there were about 3-4 random doxes claiming they were the real Kuz. While he was ruling the sharty, the twitch raids became really popular so you got a bunch of random pedo troll groups and satanists joining into the sharty and forcing zoosadism and spamming cp. Then Kuz left and sold it to a guy named doll, Doll's whole gimmick was getting soyposters to act like little babies and calling him dada. He also really loved adbl videos. He was the most incompetent admin by far and he shut down the site. Then some guy named Froot buys it. He pretends to be an awesome jew man, and forces gay porn on the posters (all underage btw.) Then when people point out how many underages there are he has a meltie about how he can't control it and how pointless it is to control it. Also he was the one who made the image verification system, and that was only because of the cp spam. Then another admin came, but I stopped following the "drama" of the site.

Essentially, a lot of the old posters left the site (partly due to the wiki spoonfeeding everything to the new posters,) and the new posters created a cargo cult of what the older ones produced. I'm sure what the other guy said is true, but I doubt any of the old posters remained.

>>7278
Why can't you stay on 4chan if all you can contribute is a picture of a frog with a juvenile attempt at a "haha gotcha"?

>7280
Shut your mouth pseudBITCH. I know who you are by your inane babblings.

>>7281
Or what? Going to spam more buzzwords and assumptions? It's clear either way admin has no overt interest in distinguishing this website from 4chan.

>>7286
I do, but I was rather hoping it could be done without heavy moderation.

>>7286
I could tell it was you whenever you say something stupid.

>>7287
4chan is heavily moderated, just not well.

>>7278
lmao

>>7279
Thanks for the quick rundown, I'm not gonna click that soyjak CP video link though.
On that note what the fuck is up with those people and "though", like look at this shit https://wiki.soyjak.st/Though this is serious weaponized autism. I aspire to put this amount of effort into my own creative projects, and it seems incomprehensible to me that people would spend so much creative energy on throwaway shit like this.
I had no idea the site had changed owners so many times. It seems very odd for an imageboard to have that happen and remain functional. Sounds like glowies could be involved. In general they are more involved with online culture than most people think I believe, kinda reminds me of the cock.li admin complaining about being targeted.

>I aspire to put this amount of effort into my own creative projects, and it seems incomprehensible to me that people would spend so much creative energy on throwaway shit like this.
After having put this into words I realize that this is why I like/admire soyposters despite their severe mental retardation. Not only the volume but also the confidence they have in their work even if it's pure mind melting imageboard slop.

>>7287
>I was rather hoping it could be done without heavy moderation.
It can't. If you want to maintain a level of quality above social media megasite slop, you need a lot of real people doing it. A community should have the culture to make for too many qualified moderators and not rely on automation tools for anything but major traffic spikes.

>>7295
That link is just an archive to the screamer wiki describing the video. I would be insane if I posted cp.

The soyjack generation is pitiable, but at least they are creating *something*, low quality and recycled as it may be, which is still marginally better than scrolling Tiktok. To me though, the ultimate distinguishment between the soyjack generation and their forefathers is that the former have a very bitter and unhumorous tone to them. They cannot laugh, everything is serious, everything is simply bursting with violent angst, everybody has to be as butthurt and bitter about life as they are. The imageboard generation from early 2000s to 2012 weren't perfect, gentle, conscientious internet posters, but they knew how to have a laugh, everything was coated in that patina of funniness simply by existing. Many online who wax nostalgia about the new mood of the current internet feel this but cannot articulate it exactly, and instead turn to left wing/right wing nonsense or shoddy demographic analysis.

>>7281
>Shut your mouth pseudBITCH. I know who you are by your inane babblings.

It's so funny, you were obviously thinking about me when you that because you called me a pseud in a previous thread. My only post is the one above. You are just mad when people write at a more complicated level than you can process. It's not even an actual argument at anyone's philosophical qualifications. You hate that we're analyzing anything at all. To you this is some extraordinary display of pretentiousness instead of just how people communicate with each other. Just go back to wherever you came from plz

>>7295
>On that note what the fuck is up with those people and "though"

Lmao I actually was there when this started. It’s an /int/ thing, some Mexican poster started posting soyjaks making fun of the tendency of posts on /int/ to end in “though”. Grammatically he was right, there was no need to use “though” in that context but his insane reaction to them only make it more popular

>>7311
>ultimate distinguishment between the soyjack generation and their forefathers is that the former have a very bitter and unhumorous tone to them
Can we really make that judgement when we're not in on the joke? If you were the age you are now back in the early days of 4chan would you not perceive it in the way you perceive soyposters today? I really don't think stuff like the habbo hotel raid or epic fail guy were too different in spirit.

>>7314
>Can we really make that judgement when we're not in on the joke?

What? Of course I can. It's a few years of internet humor, not Hittite stone texts

>>7315
That was a rhetorical question, I don't think you can due to the personal emotional differences in the way you connect to imageboard culture of the past vs now. Understanding it is another thing entirely. Although I think without genuinely immersing yourself in that culture you can't truly understand it as well, but I'm willing to be more lenient on that point.

>>7318
>I don't think you can due to the personal emotional differences in the way you connect to imageboard culture of the past vs now.

What "emotional connection" is happening when someone browses a website, exactly? You are placing internet consumption on the level of art, religion or socialization which is retarded. Internet forums are faint echoes of those elements. They are one-dimensional and do not require "immersion" to understand, as if one is in a foreign country and learning their language lmao. Direct participation is not required to understand a website's culture, especially as the theme of this thread is soyjack, an evolution of an already familiar predecessor of meme images, and not even limited to a separate website, but appearing on the same stomping grounds as the others. The same humorous context, the same memetic usage. Big whoop! Okay, I'll toss you a bone and bring up a "new" website: please tell me what level of immersion I need to attain to understand sharty humor that I cannot attain with a few minutes of skimming. A few terms perhaps that can be guessed from context? Smartphone zoomer/ESL English? Those require soulful, dedicated "immersion" to grok? Some are better at it than others, but the skill ceiling for reading websites is low-- either you get what's going on or you don't.

I wonder why you write about these websites with such serious regard. Did you do a bachelor's thesis or something about internet culture analysis and now you're trying to substantiate how important of a topic it really is? Not even lifelong SA paypigs will defend their site's importance like you are trying to do here lmao

>>7318
You are using a site for people who want to feel smart. You are talking to a luddite who tries to make himself sound smarter. These are the people who try to tell you, that you aren't learning a language if you are using the internet to do so. Your best bet would be to ask soyposters directly either on the kiwi thread or their site and try to infer the results yourself.

>>7323
I disagree with practically everything in your reply. I don't think the things they produced collectively and practically spontaneously is uninteresting or worthy of derision. I think it might actually be even more worthy of analysis than most literature because of the almost inevitable nature of it. You might find it unpleasant but it is art and one that is more genuine in its creative expression than the average "respectable" novel.

Even if you disagree with that the way one perceives even the most throwaway, crude form of creative expression has as much to do with the observer as it does with author. You should recognize that your emotional state, thought patterns, age etc. all come into play in how you perceive such things. Even more so when the subject is the collective creative output of thousands of people, it's obvious that how you relate to those people is important to the perceived emotional nature of their work.

>You are placing internet consumption on the level of art, religion or socialization which is retarded
This is what boomers thought before they themselves encountered internet culture and had their brains melted by it.

>Did you do a bachelor's thesis or something about internet culture analysis and now you're trying to substantiate how important of a topic it really is?
What the hell are you projecting on me.

>>7325
It's OK because I'm an even bigger pseud than them

>>7325
>he's still buttmad about the language learning thread a month+ later

lmfao

Go cry harder into your Duolingo streak you dumb fucking faggot

>>7331
Not mad, just confirmation that this site is for pseuds.
>>7332
Yep yep yep, another pseud blabbering to himself about how smart he is.

>>7262
Man I was about to type this same shit but way more retarded

Nusois just won’t get it, and that’s okay.

Read that as "nuswa" heehee