Petrarchive – You will never stop the New right.

>my team GOOD, your team BAD!!!

Riveting

I'll tip my hat to the new Constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday

What’s the point? I was (still am) weary of the liberal deification of weakness, the whole oppression olympics, the whole “straight white men bad, the future is female” shtick, anti-Western civilization attitude, the fawning over Islam, the madness of summer 2020, etc. I could go on.

The New Right turned out the same. They didn’t want to build anything. The instant they got into power they gutted whatever scraps remained of our institutions, trashed our academic and scientific prowess, and just acted in a straight-up sadist manner. I didn’t want people to be deported to South Sudan or El Salvador, all I wanted was for people to stop denigrating the things l love (Western culture, Americana, etc).

It's just as if the heads of Leftism and the New Right were united by something else, invisible, like their personal interest.

Fuck off back to pol

The lone brave soldier deployed to Petrarchan to seize its strategic place in the culture war landscape...

sneedjacking this thread

Has anyone else noticed that there's a fundamental asymmetry where lefties want the revolution and righties just want to be king of the hill? This much is basically based into either ideology, but it's just such an obvious explanation for our current dynamic.

Leftwingers won't get off the couch and do shit until they've penciled out every last injustice in their utopian model, but they'll sit around being pissbabies in the meantime. Meanwhile rightwingers overreact incredibly to the pissbaby whinings of leftwingers and try to dominate the institutions that exist in order to shut them down. Righties get state-power but then are essentially dissatisfied because the state doesn't make the lefties shut up, and the lefties get the culture but they don't see any value in it other than further opportunities to piss and moan.

And it's so much harder to actually build a completely 0.00% cruelty-free utopia than it is to just win a bunch of elections (or equivalent contests) with red meat and cash from plutocrats. So right wingers keep racking up nominal wins that nobody really respects because they don't get to have the apocalypse-war they really want to scourge leftism forever.

I can't even think of any material sort of win scored for "the right". ok, dismantling USAID in America is one, but a very minor one. Despite all the spectacle as far as the grand migration issue goes Trump has mostly given up ground in that war, chickening out before employers and LA protests. I guess it's good that anyone crossing the border now has to take possibility of being thrown into Salvadorian super-slammer into account, this does change the calculus of things, but actual deportation statistics are pitiful. There was some debacle with Harvard and to be honest I don't know what happened to that.
The point is that a lot of energy was expended on these largely theatrical skirmishes that have in no meaningful way taken power from institutions actually running things. And in most other fields it seems like said institutions have massively cowed Trump(especially Foreign Affairs) And if these are the best examples I can think of for the US of A, I can't think of any at all in the EU, much less rest of the anglosphere.

Market logic has prevailed over ideology. North Korea sends workers to go work at the docks in Poland. Governments will keep the immigration tap flowing for labor no matter how hard rightoids pout or how well they dress up their aggressive proclamations like OP. It's either post-political post-economic homeostatis or cutthroat market logic, no in between, no baby steps.

>>6750 (OP)
Brown hands typed this post.

>dismantling USAID
This is probably going to be responsible for death on par with the Iraq War.

>Frivolously bomb third-worlders and change their regimes on the whim establishing shitty "aid" agency (mostly front for your influence op) in return
>Hundreds of thousands to millions of dead
>Leave people in third world you have nothing to do with alone for a change
>Hundreds of thousands to millions dead
Can't catch a break, huh?

>>6803

DOGE cuts are a high-impact outcome you can credit to the right, but they're not going to be cool and fun in the way that rightwingers imagine.

The right has convinced itself that somewhere in the backrooms of every Federal workforce there's a bunch of welfare queens with tenure and union benefits and they spend all day inventing ways to hassle struggling small businesses. And they think that DOGE eliminated those positions and broke the capacity for the federal workforce to slow or block Trump's agenda.

The reality is that the federal workforce is the most over-regulated body of laborers imaginable and that most of the supposedly wasteful or incompetent stuff that they do has been forced on them by Congress after Congress filled with populists who create new legislation to curtain the unelected influence of federal workers. So just to name one example, this is why applying for government jobs is a total nightmare. The equivalent of HR for the federal government has determined that applicants must be judged strictly on how well their application materials repeat, word-for-word, the job description. Literally the best thing you can do in an application to a federal post is to simply copy-paste the job ad into a document and upload it. Anything else would involve comprehension, interpretation, judgment, etc. and that would amount to an unacceptable degree of influence by the federal workforce. So to be perfectly fair in the eyes of the law, the first round of applications to any federal position amounts to a shit-test of this stupid shibboleth. And this is just one example. The entire system is filled with stupid shit like this. Every federal employee doing just about everything is bound up by umpteen random prohibitions.

Nevertheless, a bunch of nerds actually care about things like clean water and public broadcasting, and those nerds by and large find ways to work the system to serve their mission. This is where "institutional experience" really comes to bear. A new hire at, say, NOAA is going to need about five years just to learn the ropes of the federal bureaucracy. But the old timers who have been in the job for 30 or 40 years have seen the red tape get laid piece-by-piece and they tend to know how to efficiently navigate it while serving their mission. And now 30% of those nerds have been fired without cause and the remaining nerds have to work double-time just to keep up with the paperwork churn -- to say nothing of the actual mission of a federal agency.

This is the part that amounts to irreparable harm. We are not going to get federal departments that do the shit we vote for. And we're not getting it because we also keep voting for counter-productive shit that's ostensibly to *shrink government* or whatever but it actually just traps a bunch of nerds in nightmare jobs re-filing TPS reports in triplicate. The Project 2025 guy explicitly said the point of all of this was to traumatize the federal workforce.

The higher purpose of all of this was to destroy state capacity and give us a doom-loop of worse performance and lower expectations. In effect these people are just robbing the public of the services we all voted for. And it's not going to get better just because we vote a different president into office.

>>6818
great post

never underestimate the rights ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. competency crisis is a double edged sword, and I don't see anything in their future besides disappointment and further radicalization

the new right had some good momentum these last few years but they are culturally dead. where are right wing novels? (aside fro, Houellebecq?)

>>6905
Literature doesn't matter anymore. It's a vastly inferior, low-bandwidth artform unfavored by the algorithm, coasting only on the momentum of its thousands of years of history, and its perception as being high-brow.

>>6908
if you are writing from the perspective of a reddit tier midwit with brainrot and two second attention span, which can be manipulated through tik tok vids and AI generated memes, then you are very correct. people like that cannot face the long form text and message. but any society, left or right, needs elites to produce meaning and future goals, without which country will fail

https://youtu.be/AKevy6Bzkng?si=gJG1kX_72j6dXSun