>waaah waaah waah!
>I wanna be a professional writer who gets paid to put short stories in magazines!
>I wanna be a tenured professor of English literature who writes self-indulgent novels about fucking his students!
If you were an actual ARTIST, if you actually had something to SAY, you'd go to wherever the audiences were. The real artists are making 2 minute videos on TikTok, they're not wrapped up in the ass-eating ouroboros we call "literature" which amounts to little more than a Pinterest aesthetic and a recitation of economic grievances.
The latter is true, the former isn't. I like your post though :)
The former is narcissistic self indulgence and idolizing an identity which neither exists, nor you could even perform. Or said another way LARP.
The second thing is even worse. It is believing that just because you have an audience, you have something to say, which is a statement so ridiculous that sincerely believing in it would almost redeem the whole endeavor.
Of course art is not found in either place. Making long form Tiktok content (2 Minutes is assuming a serious attention span) is just participation in one of the greatest mental annihilations the world has ever seen. Tiktoks are the anti-thesis to art, the claim that consumption is what matters and not reflection.
My post doesn't assume that having an audience means you have something to say. It's claiming that if you have something to say you will choose a medium which stands a chance of connecting you with an audience. Put another way, if you preference your choice of medium over anyone actually seeing your work, you're a hobbyist and not an artist. Writing a novel no one will read is closer to scrapbooking or making birdhouses than it is to writing a novel people actually will read.
My point is that any "audience" consists of mindbroken people, who may or may not be able to mentally engage with something above the most surface level, but who actively seek to avoid doing so at any cost.
You can not "watch" a Video on TikTok, the only way to engage with the content is through consumption and consumers are truly the lowest form of human existence. The only reason people care what consumers think is to create new things for consumption, of which more will be consumed. The opinions of a consumer couldn't be more irrelevant, especially not because he doesn't have any opinions, it is just ideas implanted there to by some algorithm.
The most successful books of recent times are porn for women. If I visit a book store it has three parts, porn for women, porn for weebs (manga) and random cookbooks.
There is no success in that environment, if you do not actively try to alienate your audience you are encouraging this behavior.
>Writing a novel no one will read is closer to scrapbooking or making birdhouses than it is to writing a novel people actually will read.
Indeed and given the things people *are* willing to read, nobody caring about your novel should be a praise.
The ubermensch sees the reduction of literature to pornography for women as a challenge– how can he express what beauty he has to convey through pornography for women?
Literature is communication, and a communication with no recipient is nothing at all.
This whole discussion hinges on how you define success in artistic endeavors. If you want to simply articulate something to someone, it seems that adopting the "any medium works" approach would work. But if you think the medium influences the work itself, then choosing an imperfect way to communicate to an audience (such as tik tok) would degenerate the attempt itself.
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A couple months back, I caved and tried out Instagram and Tiktok to kill my boredom. I learned a lot about music producing there, but what really amazed me is how effortless and fun it would be to start making beats because 90% of the work is already done for you. The same applies to art creation in Asia, where resources are nothing short of incredible because everyone is doing the same thing. And far from kneecapping innovation, this dynamic makes experimentation way easier for those who prefer it. Conversely, making art in a vacuum is like a flower trying to grow from a single ray of light and a few drops of water.
Literature is cooked for this reason. It's effectively like taking up marble sculpting or classical painting, they're the same genre of thing now.
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You presume the number of fans and the amount of money you make writing are directly tied to the quality of your work. The whole premise of this post is retarded.
And an artist shouldn't cuck to their audience. If you make changes because retards on tiktok might like it more, you're lowering yourself to the tastes of tiktok retards. You should have confidence in yourself and your work, regardless of its reception. You should produce it in any format you see fit. You do NOT lower yourself to cater to lower minds. If you write a great novel, and tiktok retards don't like, that's their problem, not yours.
>5905
>implying is not a schizo talking with himself
I follow an author who has written over 300 (no that is not a typo) stories, mostly on the shorter side. He has sold more stories to Asimov's magazine in particular, than any other author. The man has obviously been doing it for the Craft.
He spoke about the current ease of uploading to Amazon but implied that he made next to nothing: "Now I throw a title up on Kindle, no agents involved, and at the end of the month, I can buy groceries. Maybe. If I'm trying to restrict my calories." And how his old demand for books had collapsed. It doesn't seem sustainable. Maybe if you luck out and get a kick-ass proactive agent? Or the real luck of becoming hugely popular with a first title or something. Just astounds me that regardless of such an extensive catalog of works, the man barely makes it by.
I think the OP has a point insofar as this age demands hijacking within its mediums. What happened to detournement? While acknowledging that Tik Tok and its other ilk are inherently poor sources of knowledge or artistic potential, a proper hijack of the medium flips the medium on its head. But perhaps the absorption power of today's digital world is too powerful... Everything is subsumed into scrolling.
OP has a point if you are a phone-raised zoomer. He used the 'waah waah' thing like a fucking former-day ledditor too.