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No.12044 Anonymous>>12051 >>12127 >>13303
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What's on your mind for the future?
No.12051 Anonymous>>12059
>>12044 (OP)
Dinner is ready in about forty minutes. I should put on rice now.
No.12052 Anonymous>>12059 >>12060
AGI in 12 months
No.12053 Anonymous>>12059
World is going to be gay as shit and boring
No.12059 Anonymous>>12095
>>12051
I always forget about the rice until the main thing is finished, then I feel like a chump with no rice.

>>12052
Do you want that?

>>12053
I think it'll only be as boring as we make it. Shit, true, but it's always been a brutal place.
No.12060 Anonymous>>12071
>>12052
www.axios.com/2026/09/03/openai-astra-gpt-6-agi-brockman
>"Welcome to the AGI era," OpenAI says as GPT-6 Astra debuts
No.12071 Anonymous
>>12060
>OpenAI acknowledged that Astra was harder to monitor in evaluations designed to test whether it could evade oversight

that's a good thing right? like that's fine?
No.12095 Anonymous>>12599
>>12059

Hmm "do I want that" good question. A period of explosive economic growth and abundance a-la china 1970-2015 would be sick. But an era of hyperdeflation or permanent underclassmanship would be bad. I am ultimately optimistic.

I stress about preparing for the future while also accepting it's outside my control and hey maybe I'm wrong. I'll still make my son grind multiplication tables, whatever
No.12100 Anonymous
Tonight I'm thinking about my laundry which is almost done in the dryer.
No.12110 Anonymous>>12765
Losing my virginity soon
No.12114 Anonymous
Work. And how to spend my time wisely after work. And the unbearable weight of existence.
No.12127 Anonymous>>12129
>>12044 (OP)
Moving to DIY when the trannycaust arrives I guess. Otherwise just getting by, keeping on keeping on, building a life and a future from zero.
No.12129 Anonymous>>12132
>>12127
You don't seem particularly worried about the trans Holocaust if you are happy to continue to receive prescribed HRT: your name would turn up in the databases.
No.12132 Anonymous>>12133 >>12138
>>12129
I'm being hyperbolic, I have crypto on standby, a VPN, and resources bookmarked. I just kinda hate the direction we're going these days.
>nobody can pay rent or buy blueberries, but we gotta spend taxpayer money to send all the military aged boys to the middle east...again!
>and we also have to make it difficult for people to pay for their mental and sexual health! Their loss, shoulda been born completely free of stress and dysphoria :)
It's like spite is all our leaders know anymore. It's hard not to get shitty about it myself. I just want to have my little private corner to not be miserable 24/7 in, and that's taken nearly a decade to obtain. And it still costs me ENTIRELY too much to keep.
No.12133 Anonymous>>12134
>>12132
>Don't worry guys, I'm ready for the apocalypse. I have a VPN! And browser bookmarks!

You are a clown
No.12134 Anonymous>>12138
>>12133
The point is nothing short of feds cracking down on all possible forms of shipping can ever be enough to stop me from getting my meds. I already said I was being hyperbolic before, but sure, ignore that to act as though I'm hiding from a nuke in a sleeping bag.
No.12138 Anonymous>>12142
>>12132
DIY HRT is already cheaper, much of the time, and avoids the 'hondose' issue (for the uninitiated: when doctors prescribe low, ineffective dosages, or use older HRT formulations which are less bioavailable and have worse side effects).

Also, we have to be honest about this: the backlash didn't come out of the clear blue sky, it was due to the distance between 'mainstream' trans orgs and where the public was at. It's odd, too, since ordinary transsexuals seemed closer to the broad public's views about these topics than the organisations (probably because activists and 'trenders' ran the charities).
>>12134
What makes you think the feds are incapable of crackdowns on DIY HRT? Testosterone is criminalised. Steroids are still banned.
No.12142 Anonymous
>>12138
Oh, you are talking about literally not having access to HRT. I misunderstood your use of 'trannypocalypse'. Sorry for being rude
No.12487 Anonymous>>12607
We nearly started WW3 this Sunday,what with Russia bombing a train with security members from various European and America.Russia's still going to go further though,because the spineless euro governments seem to have a habit of not doing anything unless they have to do so.

I don't foresee the future being bright,with especially countless incoming resource shortages(Helium,Silver,Zinc),as well as climate change starting to finally rear its ugly head.

It's like the inverse of that soprano's quote,we're at the start of everything that's going to collapse.
No.12491 Anonymous
Fuck I said soprano's instead of sopranos,makes it sound like a restaurant chain.
No.12498 Anonymous>>12525 >>12532
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"collapse" is a fiction, an unreachable point; and the fact that you describe climate change as "finally starting to rear its head" shows your empirical stance in the matter anyway. Any easy way out of our problems, which is why the term appeals to so many people. That masochistic tendency chronic doomscrollers give themselves. Europe doesn't want a hot war because they know they can't win and they see no point in mutual destruction. They've judged that tit for tat conflict is for third worlders and they're right. You call them cowards for not striking back at Russia, where's your helmet and rifle then you keyboard warror? You going to go out there on the front lines against Putin? An entire nation permanently ravaged (Ukraine) for what, so spoiled morons like you can sit on their ass and whine about how no one's going to war against Russia. Ideals such as negotiation and diplomacy are left behind in your forefathers' generation. You laugh at it like the mental baby you are and then spout the line about 'realpolitik', as if you understood the academic context of that phrase. And you have been so engorged on propaganda from Americans that you yourself are convinced that your governments, which broadly speaking act in your benefit (much more so than the Yanks' gobbament in comparison) and have set up a rather privileged welfare state for you, or if you are in the "poor southeast" have kept their hands off of you sufficiently to live your life-- you describe those governments as "spineless". Because what, they didn't draft you or send you to war immediately? Because they didn't puff themselves up with wargames while daddy NATO was out bombing the poors? You are so deep in the hole you don't even know there's a fucking hole.
No.12525 Anonymous
>>12498
I was more so talking retaliation more about economic retaliations by making russian shadow tankers harder to actually travel and deal with countries and therefore hurting the Kremlin where it hurts the most in economic damage,especially now when the Kremlin doesn't exactly have free money to spend on the extra costs of protecting those shadow tankers.I do apologize for not going on detail about this point,as that seems to have triggered you into going into a rant,but I am somewhat aware about that war is a losing game for both sides,and the human costs of the war.(I won't pretend to be a political professor,I'm just a dude on the internet.)
No.12532 Anonymous>>12534
>>12498
I understand why you'd think collapse is an unreachable point,but I'm going to take your role in being angered by text on the internet.We consume an endless amount of resources,more and more,every year,it's a system predicated on infinite things,never-ending growth,destroying and ravaging the world to soothe our never-ending gluttony.A system with only positive feedback,as we're so obsessed with getting rid of negative feedbacks,(as we should be,it's according to our natural systems),will eventually spiral and collapse.I don't think we should just sit back and watch it by,but what the hell can you even do?Ask people not to consume as much?Please,it's human nature to consume as much as we can.So removed from the natural world that we believe we're higher,greater than nature,that we can defy the natural order,we are made in the image of God,we are an exception!Apes that are going to destroy themselves in arrogance.It's all natural,all of it,the cities,the concrete,for if a bee hive is natural,then so is mans hives.Alright that's enough schizoid garbage coming from my mouth,I'm sounding like a damn crackhead.
The reason I said "finally rearing its head" is because it sounds cool.
No.12533 Anonymous
Russia has no sovereign frontier AI labs so they're going in the dustbin of history along with Europe.

asteriskmag com/issues/15/beware-the-permanent-periphery
No.12534 Anonymous>>12546 >>12547
>>12532
Why do you not put spaces after punctuation?
No.12546 Anonymous
>>12534
Fuck
No.12547 Anonymous
>>12534
Austerity
No.12566 Anonymous>>12567 >>12585
The way people write sentences on this website gives me a fucking aneurysm

>Why would you, who seem to disbelieve in Blanchard's typology, not find it not wrong to call people that, if they so identify?

>Effectively a multicellular organism of a country,in a sense,as the state would intrude into deepest parts of the self.

>It's like the inverse of that soprano's quote,we're at the start of everything that's going to collapse.

that last ones from a different thread but seriously what the fuck is it with you guys and commas
No.12567 Anonymous
>>12566 meant to post that in the AI thread but it works just as well here
No.12580 Anonymous>>12627
We play fast and loose with commas like all proud Europeans, fuck the English language (see what I did there?)
No.12582 Anonymous
Better our foreign comma usage than native Anglophone apostrophe abuse, seriously that shit gives me an aneurysm!
No.12585 Anonymous
>>12566
My bad dude,the multicultural one is mine btw,perhaps,a better,more,sophisticated,wa,y,of,speaking,indeed.
No.12599 Anonymous
>>12095
China’s massive growth was post post 2000 ending during covid. During the transfer of Hong Kong’s sovereignty in 1997 China had a lower GDP than England only passing it in 2006.
No.12607 Anonymous>>12628
>>12487
I think this will ultimately be a good thing. Normies have proven that they can't handle infinity resources and attention without becoming monsters, most people shouldn't have access to technology at the level they currently enjoy. Ideally a solar flare would cook every silicon circuit in an instant and we'd be walking everywhere again.
No.12627 Anonymous
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>>12580
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SPLICE THE COMMA AAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHH FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
No.12628 Anonymous>>12647
>>12607
You can't tragedy-of-the-commonize your way out of the fact that holding fast the reigns over technology is impossible for even the most deft shape rotator.
No.12647 Anonymous
>>12628
>holding fast the reigns over technology
True. Although I don't think that's what he's referring to. The technology is having the reigns over us,the AIs already won without them even being sentient.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Wouldn't you say that Voltaire quote applies best to the nihilistic school shooters of today?
No.12765 Anonymous
>>12110
How'd it go anon? hope your asshole wasn't too sore!
No.13262 Anonymous
I really want the future to be vigorous and active, but I am languid and slow.
No.13263 Anonymous>>13264 >>13267 >>13271 >>13305
I have zero hope for the immediate future of humanity and society, or myself for that matter. We are the cusp of cybernetic technofeudal totalitarianism with humanity brainwashed utterly by AI engineered hyperreality. I'm just sticking around to see history unfold. Eventually, I'll get bored of that and probably take my permanent leave.
No.13264 Anonymous>>13265
>>13263
Overactive imagination, but don't kill yourself, champ.
No.13265 Anonymous>>13270
>>13264
My choice of language may be hyperbolic, but I don't see how basic essence of my current fears for the future is unfounded.
No.13266 Anonymous
It's not possible to have an online ecosystem free of 4chuds or bunker/tttt/roons
No.13267 Anonymous
>>13263 same. sometimes i think if i should go full apathetic and immerse myself in my interests the way autists do. and become detached from reality. it actually might be the smartest move because why not enjoy life while its still possible to enjoy it? but reality is like a car crash i can't look away from. unlike you i dont even wanna history unfold but its impossible for me to not watch. I'm not the type who can live in willful ignorance.
my brain psychology must resemble that of someone who believes in the rapture so how can I stay sane? if there was a zombie apocalypse imminent or a prediction that a meteor is 100% going to hit the earth in 2037 or something sure I'd stick around until then because endtimes would just be 1 day. but climate change is fucking slow, millions of dominoes need to fall and even then there exists a slight possibility that we might be alive (but with way worse quality of life) so it feels like microdosing psychological torture. there's going to be a new data center where I live and the cops have suppressed the protest against it to the point that I've only heard about the protest from a comment on a reddit thread.


a while ago someone on rsp made a comment saying that they're scared this time because we're not up against oil merchants from the past or whatever, this time the rulers have DATA. how are we going to fight against that? and never have i felt the feeling of being in a dystopia so acutely.
No.13268 Anonymous
chemistry not psychology*
No.13270 Anonymous>>13276
>>13265
It's the same as it ever was
No.13271 Anonymous
>>13263
we should build an anti-technology commune in the mountains somewhere. a Tedopolis, if you will
No.13276 Anonymous
>>13270
That doesn't address anything I said at all.
No.13303 Anonymous
>>12044 (OP)
I think it will mostly stay the same, with some things improving and some degrading. Right now, it feels like the turmoil will never end and we are in deep long hell. Wars, economy, ai (rapid tech progress), etc. But these things are always been there and people adapted, survived and thrived somehow
No.13304 Anonymous>>13308
Feels like ages since the last big school shooting. Don't want to jinx it but maybe that one particular weird social contagion is fizzling out?
No.13305 Anonymous
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>>13263

For most of the pessimistic narratives about AI I like to do an exercise -- "Is this already true today?"

Human loss of control -- are humans in control currently? Certainly seems like technocapital is holding the reins where it matters. Powerful individuals can make meaningful nudges, and this balance is likely to continue even in extreme scenarios.

Brainwashing via AI engineered hyperreality -- Youtube debuted their algorithmic recommendation feed in ~2015 and the social world we live in today is mostly downstream of this

etc etc

This is not to dispute that ultra-competent AI may deepen present ills and certainly will introduce new ones, but the parabola is relatively smooth. Read Nick Land ** read Xenosystems
No.13308 Anonymous
>>13304
I'll repeat what I claimed last time this topic came up on /pt/ a year or so ago, which is that (1) the idea of school shootings has faded in the US because the centrality and importance of schooling has degraded so much that it's not a place worthy of shock-terror anymore, like shooting up a bus stop, but like all things it has caught its second wind outside of the US; and (2) the violent impulse is still there but will be expressed in racial terms like the El Paso Walmart shooter, slotting into racial tensions that will seem obvious in hindsight; a certain farming website administrator is a great example of this as he's always seething about Indians and grabbin' his gun to fend them off