I believe in you Yanks. Go out there and do some shit. Unite. A generational moment where everyone's fed up and can contribute their strengths, and find something to celebrate in each other. Knock down these fucking things and show the surveillance state their place for once. Praying for you all
No.11828
Anonymous
2026-08-26 10:17:45
Birds of a feather
is petrarchan blueanon now
No.11834
Anonymous
2026-08-26 21:01:30
I am a blueanon hater but I think the flock camera concern is very different from the data center freakout. Mass surveillance in the US will not be used sparingly against criminals, and instead will be leveraged in various “whole of society” efforts while legislation is passed to make it inadmissible in court for violent crime etc. Flock cameras, if allowed to become widespread, will solidify anarchy-tyranny forever
No.11838
Anonymous
2026-08-27 14:24:04
What is even the point of Flock cameras when criminals who are convicted only receive a slap on the wrist? Let's look at Singapore-like punishments, canings, long-term imprisonment for unrepentant criminals.
Flock is an open example of anarcho-tyranny: you, the ordinary man, must lose your privacy so we can catch scumbags who should be in jail anyway, since they statistically have committed many offences before being released and probably given welfare and free shit just for being a criminal scumbag.
Flock is an open example of anarcho-tyranny: you, the ordinary man, must lose your privacy so we can catch scumbags who should be in jail anyway, since they statistically have committed many offences before being released and probably given welfare and free shit just for being a criminal scumbag.
No.11842
Anonymous
2026-08-28 01:58:38
White boy autumn. Go go go!!
>>11831 I'm reasonably worried about mass surveillance, but all this Flock stuff strikes me as mass hysteria. It's not like we aren't already being monitored constantly through our phones and internet presence.
>>11855
>My fellow anons, this is all pointless. They've already won. We should just give up and let the surveillance state do whatever it pleases.
how's the weather at Eglin?
>My fellow anons, this is all pointless. They've already won. We should just give up and let the surveillance state do whatever it pleases.
how's the weather at Eglin?
>>11858 Snowden revealed the surveillance state had already won over a decade ago, and it's only gotten worse since then. Flock cameras are a sideshow, and the backlash to them won't do anything to challenge the broader situation.
>>11868
It's not whether about it will "do" anything under any sort of pseudo-logical or quantitative basis. It's about the messaging of it, the feeling of empowerment it gives the people, at such a small cost, bubbling from the grassroots at a very wide angle of the populace. Let the people speak.
It's not whether about it will "do" anything under any sort of pseudo-logical or quantitative basis. It's about the messaging of it, the feeling of empowerment it gives the people, at such a small cost, bubbling from the grassroots at a very wide angle of the populace. Let the people speak.
No.11872
Anonymous
2026-08-30 04:38:06
it seems the spirit of '68 lives on
No.11887
Anonymous
2026-08-31 10:33:16
Observations from a loafer in a mid-sized Southeastern college town:
Every morning I ride my bike down the main drag and see two or three protestors outside the courthouse holding signs. One that has a hold on me: "TOWNCITY: WAKE THE FL*CK (sic.) UP."
I've got a tweaker neighbor who lives in a drughouse with his girl up the hill. Often he'll come up on our porch to sit and talk. Once he drove me to the pawnshop and pointed out all the Flock cameras along the way. Got himself worked up: a friend stuck up a gas station & was tracked down w/ footage from a few Flock cameras. Alleges that it's now impossible to commit a crime. Unsure this information's veracity: last week I saw him lugging a bigass spool of some shit up the hill. Alleges he beats up the guys from the halfway houses down the hill who hang around stealing shit.
Every morning I ride my bike down the main drag and see two or three protestors outside the courthouse holding signs. One that has a hold on me: "TOWNCITY: WAKE THE FL*CK (sic.) UP."
I've got a tweaker neighbor who lives in a drughouse with his girl up the hill. Often he'll come up on our porch to sit and talk. Once he drove me to the pawnshop and pointed out all the Flock cameras along the way. Got himself worked up: a friend stuck up a gas station & was tracked down w/ footage from a few Flock cameras. Alleges that it's now impossible to commit a crime. Unsure this information's veracity: last week I saw him lugging a bigass spool of some shit up the hill. Alleges he beats up the guys from the halfway houses down the hill who hang around stealing shit.
>>11871 It's a meaningless release valve. The NSA intercepts everyone's electronic communications and stores it all in a Utah data center. If anyone's genuinely worried about the surveillance state and how the government could use it to crack down on dissent, they should be talking about stuff like that and the Patriot Act. But that's all boring old news.
And anyway, let's get real. Ninety-five percent of anti-Flock activists are just radlib types who don't like it because it makes it easier for the government to arrest minorities committing street-level crime.
And anyway, let's get real. Ninety-five percent of anti-Flock activists are just radlib types who don't like it because it makes it easier for the government to arrest minorities committing street-level crime.
No.11899
Anonymous
2026-09-01 02:49:33
>>11889
It is an ontological difference. We are talking in circles. You say: This bad thing exists. I reply: Yes, but... that doesn't have any say in whether or not people should act. Then you say again, and seemingly always: Bad thing exists. So we are stuck in an endless loop. This is why I opened my previous comment with babble about measurability. The "outer picture" of whether or not people kicking down Flock poles will solve the galaxy-sized problem of surveillance, all of it, forever, starting us at a clean state. In fact, people should feel free to express themselves in politically-oriented ways against something they find personally shocking to their safety and comfort such as overt public surveillance cameras. They should protest without that pointless burden on their backs that "it's not really gonna do nothing at the end of the day", so everyone should sit on their hands at home and bitch about it on the internet like you.
The sign that this is so significant is its burst of authentic, bottom-up *will* of the people to do something. A hundred million think tanks and advertising execs and fifth column assholes couldn't do that with all the money in the world. Did you ever stop to think why so many people are on board with knocking down these specific installations all of a sudden? They didn't do so before even though surveillance cameras have existed on the corner of every building for half a century, openly and conspicuously reminded to everyone by signs announcing their existence. They didn't freak out at Ring doorbells and the like, nor the cameras facing them every day from their devices. Look, I'm like you. I've taken plenty of shit from others for being "paranoid"-- every privacy advocate goes through that social hazing. I too am a little bemused that the people decided to act on this specific issue. But what's important is that they decided to act in the first place. This sets a precedent and a message to everyone. Isn't it better to embrace this open-handedly and try to use its momentum for furthering ideas and norms around privacy? Or do you not really care about the general public anymore and are quite comfortable in your technological cocoon. Hope it's that so I don't have to call you a fucking spook. Not that it matters, you're doing legwork for them anyway
It is an ontological difference. We are talking in circles. You say: This bad thing exists. I reply: Yes, but... that doesn't have any say in whether or not people should act. Then you say again, and seemingly always: Bad thing exists. So we are stuck in an endless loop. This is why I opened my previous comment with babble about measurability. The "outer picture" of whether or not people kicking down Flock poles will solve the galaxy-sized problem of surveillance, all of it, forever, starting us at a clean state. In fact, people should feel free to express themselves in politically-oriented ways against something they find personally shocking to their safety and comfort such as overt public surveillance cameras. They should protest without that pointless burden on their backs that "it's not really gonna do nothing at the end of the day", so everyone should sit on their hands at home and bitch about it on the internet like you.
The sign that this is so significant is its burst of authentic, bottom-up *will* of the people to do something. A hundred million think tanks and advertising execs and fifth column assholes couldn't do that with all the money in the world. Did you ever stop to think why so many people are on board with knocking down these specific installations all of a sudden? They didn't do so before even though surveillance cameras have existed on the corner of every building for half a century, openly and conspicuously reminded to everyone by signs announcing their existence. They didn't freak out at Ring doorbells and the like, nor the cameras facing them every day from their devices. Look, I'm like you. I've taken plenty of shit from others for being "paranoid"-- every privacy advocate goes through that social hazing. I too am a little bemused that the people decided to act on this specific issue. But what's important is that they decided to act in the first place. This sets a precedent and a message to everyone. Isn't it better to embrace this open-handedly and try to use its momentum for furthering ideas and norms around privacy? Or do you not really care about the general public anymore and are quite comfortable in your technological cocoon. Hope it's that so I don't have to call you a fucking spook. Not that it matters, you're doing legwork for them anyway