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No.11659 Anonymous>>12234
What will happen after Reddit is gone?
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Reddit recently shut down old.reddit.com for users who don’t have an account. The new site barely works on my device and I couldn’t use it to browse the way that I did even if I wanted to.

I’ve realized that at least 12 times a day (usually a lot more), I compulsively type old.reddit.com into my address bar just to see what is going on. I still do this out of muscle memory even though the URL has served a login wall for more than a week now. I don’t really care about the platform, but I’m worried about the impact it will have on my ability to find things via search.

Starting in about 2018, when I would conduct a search on Google, I noticed that if I didn’t append site:reddit.com to the search, I would end up getting low-quality content from small businesses and other content mills that had no guarantee of being helpful. By the summer of 2025 I was also frequently appending before:2023 to reduce the amount of AI responses in comments. This kept Google reasonably usable for a time, but I don’t think it will last. Reddit has been open about wanting to pivot away from drive-by traffic (which can’t be as easily profiled) and towards Facebook’s walled garden model. Both sites have absolutely destroyed Google Images as the default assumption is that everyone already has an account and can view the content.

I also archive a lot of content and have found Reddit, Instagram, and YouTube have all been clamping down on programs like yt-dlp in an effort to prevent content from being exfiltrated from their platforms.

I’m aware of various alternative platforms but the issue there is that these platforms don’t have the historical archive of content (which stretches back 20+ years on Reddit), nor the userbase necessary to create one. I’ve found most are also extremely unlikely to ever take off, with poor design decisions that make them undesirable even for people who are already sold on the need for an alternative.

The problem reminds me of how the logic of global supply chains was challenged in 2020; I had never had the experience of going to a store and expecting them to be out of something until then. Similarly, I’ve always lived in a world where my default assumption is that the information is out there and that you can access it for free; but what will the world look like when that is no longer the case?
No.11661 Anonymous
The day LibRedirect and RedReader stop working is the day I stop using that dogshit site.
No.11664 Anonymous
I'm addicted to reddit. like many rs users I've deleted instagram and reddit is the only social media i frequent. like many rs users, my life will be better when I'm without reddit. it is also possible that I will go insane from the lack of feeling of community, however bastardised, that reddit provides. 50/50 chance. curious to see how it pans out
No.11665 Anonymous>>11670
sites like this one become an oasis
No.11669 Anonymous
github.com/redlib-org/redlib
Modern reddit interface is such unusable Javascript slop.
No.11670 Anonymous
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>>11665
Sites like this one can’t scale. When I submitted this thread it didn’t appear right away, so someone is manually approving posts; that’s fine for readers, but if you want to submit a thread it will eventually mean anything you want to post is stuck in a large queue. Maybe people who are more cognizant of what they are reading will move to sites like this, and everyone else will end up in Facebook’s walled gardens.
No.11672 Anonymous>>11706
I'm really intrigued by how the internet is going to shake out in light of reddit in particularly alienating so many people. I genuinely think we will se a return to fringe sites like this and personal websites. I think there'll be a wave of it being 'cool' to have your own website or be part of some weird forum.
No.11674 Anonymous
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100% relate to many of these sentiments.

I obviously abhor how much I have used compulsively and feel a vicarious sense of relation from the last few holdout interesting sites. I mourn having to consider ceding fully the internet, since a free and consumer friendly internet at least had the pretense of being able to mitigate some of the downsides to increasing technological dependence. I pray this site can hold out against the pulsing waves of nonsense.
No.11675 Anonymous>>11679
You also can’t skip email verification anymore :(
No.11677 Anonymous
I'm active in a forum tied to a paid subscription. The subreddit for it (nunya), which just got worse and worse to the point the official forum had to be made.
No.11678 Anonymous
On one hand I wish the ongoing demise of the internet would hurry the fuck up so we could all leave it behind, but on the other hand it's all I have and I really don't want to be even lonelier. There's gotta be a middle ground somewhere.
No.11679 Anonymous
>>11675
They made entering an email mandatory but you can use e.g. [email protected] and it gets sent to nowhere. The account is created but you have to get approved to post. I only ever posted on a specific board so I don’t know if you can post elsewhere after hitting a karma threshold like you could before, but I have read that most boards just block unverified accounts because 90% of them are spammers.
No.11684 Anonymous>>11685
I gave in and made an account to slopscroll rsp like the cuck I am. For whatever reason they've increased the karma requirements from three days to something more stringent so I can't post still, for the better I guess.
No.11685 Anonymous
>>11684
Guess we're all the same here, because I did the same and thought I was shadowbanned for a bit.
No.11689 Anonymous
If you message the moderators on /r/redscarepod they will usually approve your account for posting in less than a day.
No.11693 Anonymous
I'm using this as an opportunity to hopefully quit my reddit addiction for good. I've wasted a nauseating amount of my life on that hellsite.
No.11694 Anonymous>>11699
Reddit is such a boon for datamining that idk if it'll truly ever die out, but it does feel like we're reaching an inflection point of the internet. Hopefully that means people end up in more boutique sites, but realistically it'll probably just mean more walled gardens and slop content; the only way things can realistically change is through regulation from somewhere like the EU, and they don't seem interested in anything particularly impactful or well-enforced — sites constantly break the GDPR cookie laws by making it impossible to opt out but no one cares.
No.11699 Anonymous
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>jack up API costs so nobody can afford them
>remove perfectly fine UI in favor of a bloated broken JS mess
>block anyone without an account from viewing the site
>ban accounts for saying anything slightly controversial
>ban all interesting subreddits
>allow AI bot accounts
>allow userbase to transform into mostly third worlders and mentally ill people
>cease all admin communication with users
>seemingly no effort to validate if a user is even a real person
Crazy to think this is the same website that freaked the fuck out when Ellen Pao was named CEO and banned /r/FatPeopleHate, also the same one Aaron Schwartz helped create.

>>11694
>Reddit is such a boon for datamining that idk if it'll truly ever die out
I think this is gonna be a huge problem since it's increasingly soliciting information from the third world and other AI models. Wait until they give central Africa better internet, you're gonna see posts on medical subreddits about having demons and shit. You're gonna open ChatGPT and it will respond in Hinglish.

Ironically it gives me some hope because AI is completely dependent on the quality of the information it receives. So it'll probably force some sort of legislation or more investment into education. My hope is just for robust firewalls like China has.
No.11700 Anonymous
>endless third world fearmongering

Good morning, America
No.11706 Anonymous
>>11672
Everyone thought geocities were lame and pathetic back in the 2000s. I can't imagine how bad it would be now.
No.11707 Anonymous>>11708 >>11714
there has never and will never be anything cool about having “your own website” what the fuck would you even put there
No.11708 Anonymous
>>11707
Small minded zoomer, small, small small...
No.11714 Anonymous
>>11707

Hostlet doesn’t have his own website
No.11725 Anonymous>>11726
I’m surprised reddit still allows archive.org to save posts since they announced they would block access last year. It only allows 10000 captures of the same site per day, but you can use old.reddit instead of the default www.

Once old reddit dies for good I will be free from that site. I wasted so much time on there for years, but now I only browse the rs subs since it’s the only place on there that feels like I’m talking to real people and not scrolling through the same 50 joke comments, but the rs subs have those too.

If you make an archive.org account and you link a google account to it, you can make a google sheet with up to 5000 links to archive. Then you can submit the sheets link to archive.org and it will archive all those links plus any outlinks for you. Look up “save page now google sheets”

For more archive related stuff check out archiveteam they have a lot of tools and resources for archiving things on the internet
No.11726 Anonymous
>>11725

main rsp sub is front page shit now. every second post is about immigrant or genderwars. new r/conservative in town
No.11727 Anonymous
As bad as reddit has become I still prefer it to discord. I don’t know how people can navigate it especially when it becomes a substitute for a forum for something like a video game community.

It is so tedious to scroll through tons of garbage posts to find what I’m looking for when searching, and that’s assuming the server join link still works, or some angry mod nuked the whole server over something stupid. So much information is hidden from search engines on these servers and they get abandoned too.
No.11728 Anonymous
Discord is devastatingly bad, so harmful to technology that I think it might just be an intentional blow to information preservation and FOSS.
No.11731 Anonymous>>12079
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All the reddit restrictions are a boon for me. I've stopped using reddit on desktop, and on mobile the log-in/download pop up is getting more and more consistent. I might stop going all together. I did use redlib a couple times but hopefully they break that so I stop going on that shithole
No.11912 Anonymous>>11913 >>11917
Well, as of about three days ago, I can no longer even view Reddit posts without logging in on mobile. If they start locking down the old archives on desktop I won’t know what to do; I refuse to create an account on principle but it’s a huge knowledge base to lose access to. I’ve noticed in the last year Google Images has gone over to being almost all social media results with cropped low quality images behind a login wall; I thought this was just Google trying to promote recent content, but now I think there just might not be many sites allowing Google to index their images anymore. Cynically I think the tech companies are running ineffective scrapers on purpose to kill off independent sites by flooding them with traffic.
No.11913 Anonymous>>11923
>>11912

This was all true ten years ago, people are walling their sites over AI scraping now
No.11916 Anonymous>>11917
This Firefox extension, which will make old Reddit work even without an account, apparently can work on Android: addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/old-reddit-redirect/
IDK about iPhone.

It also works on desktop Firefox and Chrome too.

I find mobile Reddit unusable, it makes my phone lose about 1% each minute. That's a lot of computation for TEXT
No.11917 Anonymous
>>11916 replies to >>11912.
No.11923 Anonymous>>11926
>>11913

It was nowhere near as bad 10 years ago. Even three years ago (long after Google search itself had become useless without appending site:reddit.com to every query) I could reliably find things on Google Image Search. It’s just not possible anymore, everything is too locked down.
No.11926 Anonymous
>>11923 just use tineye bro
No.11992 Anonymous
as soon as chance stops working with reddit i can finally be free. i have wasted so much time on this site i've been on it for 9 years. i could've used that time to get really good at something but instead i spent it scrolling on reddit.
No.12079 Anonymous
>>11731
My old Android phone broke and I got an Iphone. Android still had an bullshit-free third-party app. Turns out there's no good apps for browsing Reddit on Iphone anymore. It was the push I needed. Now I only use reddit on desktop, almost exclusively at work.
No.12234 Anonymous
>>11659 (OP)
I have always wondered what would happen if one of the major sites did shutdown, completely, along with all mirrors and alts, and how that would effect other sites. Where people would migrate, and how they would adapt to different site cultures, and if they would have realizations that they were, in fact, in repressive hugboxes.