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No.11018 Anonymous
Therapy, Self-Help, So On
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Have any of you lot who think you have problems of the psychic kind tried to solve them? What has helped the most? Once again, I think I should do something about my idiotic anxiety. Mainly because I've realized I'm too old to be physically cringing and swearing aloud at things I did 20 years ago as if it happened tomorrow, or be too afraid to talk to someone and go out of my way to avoid the faintest possibility. I've been considering DBT because those who are in my position seem to think it "works", but I tend to smear orthodox methods with the same brush (that is, they are bad). Maybe I need Prozac? Or just whiskey?
No.11038 Anonymous
There are a million different possible answers and you have to find what works.

I had success with psychodynamic psychotherapy. Free associating with the insight from the therapist did give me a greater degree of meaningful agency and self-consciousness. I like the interpretation of the psychoanalytic methods that it is a "theory of history" that gives you freedom in the present by allowing you to assimilate and reckon with what bothers you about your past. And what is best is that the therapist is a blank slate instead of your typical patient-clinician dynamic which can be daunting.

For anxiety I found it very helpful. I want you to do something about it because I know there is no worse feeling than going around the world acting like a slave afraid of a beating. There is life beyond that.

You could also get schizo with the biochemical stuff. Thanks to AncestryDNA + Claude I found a MTHFR polymorphism that riboflavin helped dramatically, as well as a other mutations that have to do with how your brain handles neurotransmitters like dopamine and how efficiently it gets cleared.
No.11046 Anonymous>>11053
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Sedona Method works.

Don't bother reading the books. Don't bother watching videos. There's like a 6 step technique and probably 3 of those steps are padding.

It's probably just explaining, in actionable steps, the acceptance stage at the core of every technique of emotional processing. Healthy people probably do this reflexively and I had to learn it as an adult because my dad had rage issues.
No.11053 Anonymous>>11096
>>11046
Sedona Method = just dont know think about it, bro?

Yeah, I agree. Most non-retardedly anxious people I know basically cannot comprehend the fixation which anxiety, regret, or shame takes in my everyday existence. They basically just cock their heads and wonder why I don't just drop it.

Will check it out more
No.11054 Anonymous>>11055 >>11410
To an extent, anxiety is a physiological problem and can be tackled from that angle, i.e. breath control, calming techniques, meditation
No.11055 Anonymous
>>11054
I think my physiological problem is an inherent lack of alcohol in my body, so I need to keep at least a shooter on me at all times.

Jk. I used to think that breath control stuff was silly, but it's probably worth at least using it to transfer your thoughts to something else or believe that it's a breath problem.
No.11096 Anonymous>>11121 >>11304
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>>11053

> just dont know think about it, bro?

Short answer, YES. At the end of the day, if you're having a dysfunctional response to your thoughts then you need a way to stop that that. Pic related.

I don't want to make the Sedona Method sound like some transcendental whatever. It's not. It's a basic set of steps that stand to move into a moment of equanimity. I don't want to spell it out here because Petrarchan, honestly, has replicated the puerile, adversarial, and dismissive aspects of -chan culture.

If you're sincerely looking for help, this is sincerely what I would recommend.
No.11121 Anonymous>>11130
>>11096
> a moment of equanimity
what is equanimity in this case?
No.11130 Anonymous>>11313
>>11121
Inner freedom, a sense that emotional experience is voluntary
No.11304 Anonymous
>>11096
>I don't want to spell it out here because Petrarchan, honestly, has replicated the puerile, adversarial, and dismissive aspects of -chan culture.
Am I understanding this part right? You don't want to explain in great detail because someone's gonna call you a fag or say imagine being this retarded?
Just explain. This place clearly has people who take stuff serious and don't use irony 24/7
No.11313 Anonymous>>11324
>>11130
I've never felt that way, only the opposite.
No.11324 Anonymous>>11333
>>11313
actually, let me rephase: I think that most of the time, I am under the delusion that emotions are voluntary and controllable, but I simultaneously think that there is no such thing and that our emotions are in fact very obscure and impossible to control, especially by one's self.
No.11333 Anonymous>>11335
>11304
As if on cue, the adversarial dismissive chamber rears his ugly head. You understand that no one intelligent or thoughtful will ever want to share a sincere and heartfelt thought in your presence, right? Anybody with authentic live to share will flee from you. You are unpleasant because you are alone, but more fundamentally you are alone because you are unpleasant.

>>11324
Yeah just read the books or watch the videos
No.11335 Anonymous>>11406
>>11333
why do you spend your time here complaining about how everyone on this forum is stupid and unpleasant, but simultaneously shoot down comments with le epic quips? Just curious.
No.11406 Anonymous>>11408
>>11335
The midwit channer shrieks in pain as he is asked to do a single Google

You are exactly the kind of adversarial brat who ruins public discourse because you're always looking for a chance to snipe at people
No.11408 Anonymous
>>11406
you are literally just describing yourself plus im rubber and youre glue
No.11409 Anonymous
i didn't even ask anything nigga are you a real person?
No.11410 Anonymous>>11411
>>11054
holy retard mistaking symptom for cause
No.11411 Anonymous>>11417
>>11410
>you're retarded because you put a bandage on top of your cut, why didn't you address the cause??
No.11414 Anonymous
Unfortunately for me getting a job that required waking up early and doing labor cured my anxiety. No time to overthink when you're tired. Maybe try distance running.
No.11417 Anonymous>>11418
>>11411
you should address the cause like someone swinging a knife at you
No.11418 Anonymous
>>11417
Some stress is inevitable, thus it's good to have techniques to manage stress well. It's also possible to have an unhealthy response to stress, in which case it's the symptoms themselves that are the problem.

Plus even if one ought to deal with the cause, that generally requires being able to cope with the stress in the mean time, so stress-management techniques are important again. It's easier to deal with the source of the issue if you're managing the symptoms well.